Matthew 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Well it seems we had two popular ‘conferences’ to choose from in California this week.
Pastor John MacArthur has his Strange Fire Conference.
Strange Fire is a conference that will set forth what the Bible really says about the Holy Spirit, and how that squares with the charismatic movement. We’re going to address in a biblical, straightforward manner what many today see as a peripheral issue. On the contrary, your view of the Holy Spirit influences your relationship with God, your personal holiness, and your commitment to the church and evangelism.
Then you have the Mark Driscoll and James MacDonald running their “Act Like Men” Conference.
Men who are loud and ruthless about their own sin, but patient and full of grace in leading others. Men who long to follow God without limits and meet the needs of those around them without hesitation.
To get there we need radical surgery. It's time to cut deep and get it all, and not be afraid of what that means. We challenge you to join thousands of men for a two-day conference this fall-to step up with us and Act Like Men.
What happened to acting like GENTLE men?
We have seen in the past when one pastor’s don’t like something another pastor believes, preaches, teaches, etc. They can be either a gentleman about it, or sadly as we have what we have seen this week – a petulant child. Mark Driscoll gets the petulant child award this week!
No doubt neither of them agreed with the ‘others’ message this week, but holy mackerel you would think some could ‘act’ the role they get paid for. You know – pastor, teacher, leader, etc?!
Mark Driscoll’s behavior to me doesn’t show other’s how to ‘Act Like Men’. He tweets ahead of time that he planned to go to John MacArthur’s event to ‘hand out his newest book’ which doesn’t agree with the MacArthur’s main message for his conference.
Yes, we know that celebrities at times ‘tweet’ that they will be places where others can meet them. Pastor’s tweeting that they plan to come to the opposing event to hand out his books ‘opposing’ message? That’s not my vision of someone that wants others to ‘Act Like Men’. Establishments normally welcome celebrities and ‘twitter’ followers because it helps their bottom line, and gives them promotion.
Some how I don’t think The Strange Fire Conference took it that way. It doesn’t take ‘discernment’ to figure out WHY either!
As most of us know – or could understand if you didn’t – vendors are normally vetted at these events. The approved vendors then can hand out their literature, and sell their wears, etc. This is pretty common practice for a host of reasons.
I guess Mark Driscoll and James MacDonald decided to ‘Act Like Men’ and crash the event to hand out Mark’s latest book - and of course ‘autograph’ them if need be. They were approached, and asked to stop. Security it seems offered to walk him and his books back to his car. Yes, the vendor ‘vetting’ portion that no doubt Driscoll and MacDonald knew about – as I’m sure they have the same process – was explained to them.
To me, I can understand you being offended by the MacArthur’s conferences message. People do that have right, and you can ‘agree’ with MacArthur’s view as well. Different belief systems aren’t going away anytime SOON! For me personally? I think they are both a bit screwy!
Crashing an event like this is not what a gentleman would do. You don’t ‘tweet’ your maybe arrival if you have time, and act like WILL wonders ever cease - when asked to leave due to actions you KNEW would push buttons.
(giggles) I mean can you imagine what the response would be if a feminist group or gay pride group showed up at the ‘Act Like Men’ conference? Yikers!
James MacDonald didn’t like how some people showed up at his event – and they paid for the tickets and travel – only to be escorted out, and threatened with arrest. Yet, Mature and Acting Like Men MacDonald and Driscoll didn’t see a problem crashing someone else’s event while NOT paying for the tickets and travel. Okay then. They can pick and choose who is at their event, and BE MEN while crashing someone else’s. Sigh.
Yes, Driscoll acted as if he showed up to ‘bless them’ with his new book. (Yeah right!) They were his GIFT to them, and he showed up with boxes FULL of them. When he was finally escorted to his car? Mark Driscoll to let everyone know that the books were a ‘gift’ to the church location where the event was taking place.
Next thing you know he wanted to show others how to ‘Act Like Men’ once again, and tweets that security at the event confiscated his books. I guess he missed the part that plenty of others were around when he announced ‘his gift’, and they were rather upset when they were accused of ‘confiscation’ instead. Check out the screen shot of responses on Twitter over that: Driscoll Claims Confiscation of his Books
Yep, they know how to Act Like Men don’t they? NOT!
That Strange Fire he felt was NOT the symbol of Real Men. Teenage boys going out to crash a party MAYBE …. but then most of those boys GROW UP!
Comment I had to smile at: Sort of funny, really to watch this…. They both agree that the earth is flat, but can’t agree on whether it rests on the backs of seven elephants, or an endless stack of turtles. Utterly delusional. Both.
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