tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10948559.post644408673848316044..comments2024-02-08T21:51:21.368-06:00Comments on Emotional Abuse and Your Faith: Masculine versus Macho – real men or culture?Hannahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15165967476661656865noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10948559.post-58565861138928775282012-05-07T10:19:45.144-05:002012-05-07T10:19:45.144-05:00Thanks for the link (and for spelling my name corr...Thanks for the link (and for spelling my name correctly!). Glad to see this is striking a chord.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09440250912113010049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10948559.post-54415940672181990252012-05-06T19:18:52.384-05:002012-05-06T19:18:52.384-05:00David Murrow in his 2003 book "Why Men Hate G...David Murrow in his 2003 book "Why Men Hate Going to church" also advocates making worship more masculine. Wilson's statements mostly agree with Murrow's. Murrow claims churches that become more masculine increase male attendance, and that women are ok either way. I disagree. I have noticed that I can relate intellectually to what male preachers say, but it rarely reaches my heart/emotions. They are only reaching 24%-50% of me. furthermore, the masculine churches around here are also the male/husband authority ones. Those men are coming because they believe it is the male's right to control his wife. In other words, they are raising up male bullies and female adult babies. Hannah, the hateful things Wilson says about women would make me feel very unsafe in his church. I am not talking about the points of calling sin sin. I am talking about the hateful points against women. When a pastor dispises women, as Wilson's points suggest he does, no woman should feel safe. He is insighting husbands against their wives, men against women. It sounds like the who idea of being masculine is because they feel contempt toward women and feminine.<br /><br />Also, Wilson refers to Jael using a tent peg and mallet to kill an enemy. The things he says against women would drive such a woman from his church. Jael did not get her husband's permission to kill Sisera, nor to invite him into her tent. According to what these complementarians say about today's women, Jael took on the masculine role and she should be disciplined. She should have waited for her husband to come home and deal with the enemy.Waneta Dawnhttp://www.wanetadawn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10948559.post-34643663695616857302012-05-06T15:25:30.219-05:002012-05-06T15:25:30.219-05:00Women used to be excluded from the arts in earlier...Women used to be excluded from the arts in earlier times. Shakespeare's theatre had only male actors, many of them playing women's roles. In Michaelangelo's day, a woman who painted was persecuted and condemned. Even cooking was something women were excluded from, except at home. It used to be only men could be chefs. A thing was "woman's work" if it was done at home, in private. If money or prestige could be obtained from it, she was excluded. <br /><br />You're absolutely right, Hannah. This is not about being "real men." This is about power. That's all it's ever been about.Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08252374623355509404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10948559.post-90086723590703666552012-05-06T10:02:46.962-05:002012-05-06T10:02:46.962-05:00"Macho" is not the same as "masculi..."Macho" is not the same as "masculine" -- excellent point.<br /><br />Verity3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com